usage - "Mom and Dad" vs "Dad and Mom"



I'm curious if the order implies anything here. I'm pretty sure "Mom and Dad" is standard in English. The issue was hard for me to google, so I'm asking it here:


Is using "Dad" before "Mom" incorrect, or is it just not often seen/bad practice? I see both, but "Mom and Dad" is far more prevalent.


Edit: What puzzles me is that usually masculine comes before feminine. The given umich article on word order is quite instructive, and I have yet to read all of it. In Chinese and I think Spanish, the father comes first usually.


Now that I think of it, I think German features "Mutter & Vater" more often. Probably carried over into English.


Edit 2: Some power googling reveals that "Mom and Dad" is far more prevalent during 2005-2013.


It can make a difference though, as in an example I found: "I became my girls’ Dad and Mom when one was four years, the other three months old." This is quite clearly in the voice of the father, as shown here.



Answer



Word collocation. Words get paired and their order becomes fixed. Also known as irreversible binomials, binomials and Siamese twins.


It's like bread and butter. You never say those words the other way round, do you?


Likewise:




  • Ladies and Gentlemen


    Mum and Dad


    cats and dogs


    black and white


    backwards and forwards


    thunder and lightning


    peace and quiet




Some pair words can be joined with "or" for instance




  • rain or shine


    now or never


    sooner or later


    right or wrong


    more or less


    all or nothing




Interestingly, in Italian the word order is sometimes the reverse:




  • bianco e nero (white and black)


    cani e gatti (dogs and cats)


    avanti e dietro (forwards and backwards)


    vivo o morte (alive or dead, which if you think about it, makes more sense.)




but always



  • mamma e papà (mum and dad)


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